Posted by Arthur on August 17, 2001 at 20:30:30:
In Reply to: Re: THE 12 BASIC HELLENIC CHARACTERISTICS (almost all are Orthodox Christian characteristics as well) posted by Bill on August 17, 2001 at 08:45:32:
: : Bill wrote:
: : : Your repetitive use of "lol" is annoying and arrogant. I imagine you're quite cerebral, but lack any cognizance of what is actually transpiring in the world around you. Your logic stems from the convenience to placate your skewed perception of religion, Christianity et al. Thank God (yes, the Christian one), that you're a complete idiot----lol.
: : Conjectures and "imaginations" are idealistic. We can say "imagine" all we want. The term, "imagine" automatically places this argument in the realm of the hypothetical which has no substance in the realm of reality. Conjectures are judgments based on inconclusive or incomplete evidence; guesswork. Your statement is not realistic. Just because we imagine something, this doesn't make it true.
: : Let's first define God and let's first also determine if this being is a reality. This has not been done conclusively without a great bunch of faith and unreason.
: : Achilles
: Again, your reasoning is based on what can be considered "tangible" evidence. All the great thinkers, (this is open to personal opinion), first hypothesized and then theorized. The scope of their hypotheses were far from being grounded in the "tangible" realm in which they presided. Being unable to literally touch or see something, does this make it non-existent? I believe, with confidence, that this is not the case.
You've come full circle. Initially requiring point 1: 'Hellenic "Paideia" and the ability to understand abstract Hellenic ideas in their full depth.' of a Hellene, subsequently you have stated the following:
* "imagine" automatically places this argument in the realm of the hypothetical which has no substance in the realm of reality.*
Yet this is where the abstract also resides. The definition of "abstract" is: 'existing only in the mind; not concrete, not representational'.
It seems that you hold a contradiction, something you have made apparent that you abhor in others.
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