Re: Classical Greece and the Truth about the Modern!!

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Posted by John Joseph Velohoitis on May 09, 2002 at 04:01:14:

In Reply to: Classical Greece and the Truth about the Modern!! posted by Pericles on May 09, 2002 at 02:54:48:

: It sadened me greatly to witness an interesting and informative post deleted from this board because it contravened popular beliefs of the othordox dogma.It was titled 'Greek Blood you are Not'.
: Well let me present my version of the events addressed in that piece of work.The Austrian Hellenist of the 1830s refered to was Falmerayer and his statement was that "NOT ONE DROP OF PURE GREEK BLOOD RUNS IN THE VEINS OF MODERN GREEKS AS THEY ARE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT RACE".This arguement can indeed be debated extenously but there are logical points on both sides of the fence.Having said that we must also acknowlede that the majority of academics do infact agree with Falmerayer but nothing has been proven conclusively.
: Maybe in future if scientific advances are such we may be able to extract DNA like substance fron ancient bones to finally put an end to this speculation.Either way it should make NO DIFFERENCE what so ever because that Greek Culture has LIVED ON despite 2000 years of constant turmoil.In my personal view being of a particular culture is a lot more than just simple blood lines or religion for that matter as i and many others who are not of that religious belief(orthodox) can attest to.In my case my parents being from the Ionian Islands are Catholic and i myself Atheist .
: The other arguement was wether Orthodox=Greek.That notion is well and truly obsurd bordering on the utterly obscene. Greece being under Ottoman Rule Missed out on experiencing CRITICAL EVENTS in European history such as the Renaissance,Reformation,Counter Reformation,17th Century Scientific Revolution,18th Century Enlightenment,the French and Industrial Revolution all PASSED GREECE by thus leaving her people totally ignorant of the world and in a PROVERBIAL TIME WARP.The Turks did this purposely as the last thing they wanted was the Classical past interfering with their taxes and political power base.The Turks were not at all interested in coverting the people to Islam for that would mean that they would pay less taxes and every 10th child would be exempt from serving in the military.Nor were the Turks interested in spreading the Turkish language as this can be evidenced in ALL the other Ottomam controlled areas where the mother tongue of the peoples survived.
: The Turks instead used the Othodox Church(WHO WERE UNABASHED IN THEIR SUPPORT OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE) as their weopon in controlling the masses and keeping the staus quo.
: Greece finally gained her independence ONLY when it was decided by the Russian French and British alliance that the Ottoman Empire had to Go for their own political gain.The orthodox church infact willingly transpired with the Ottomans during the siege of Constantinople due to a promise by the Ottomans to allow them to sustain their power base rather than pledge alegiance to the Pope which the Emperor eventually did although probably under duress.
: In fairness to the othodox they still had bad memories of the Latin sacking of Constantinople by the Venetians some 200 years earlier.
: Therefore i will let the reader decide for themselves are they the saviours of Greek identity and culture or merely oportunists who gladly led their people into 400years of Islamic occupation in order to maintain their power base.

It seems you have done your homework as the clown who respondeed called you a jew.From what i read you are of Greek Catholic backround and Atheist as am i. I doubt if they will leave this post on though! you may have seen how cowardly they are in allowing the truth out and conducting fair debates.

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